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#1526 by leery
2018-10-19 at 07:17
I asked for something similar two months ago at t950.494

"Probably infeasible to implement", the words I started the post with.
#1527 by seniorblitz
2018-10-20 at 00:47
Btw asking a question, does Multiple Protagonists apply If other characters take the lead in the omakes but the main game still only have one protag?
#1528 by warfoki
2018-10-20 at 00:51
Unless these omake parts are about as long as the main title, use Other Perspectives in that situation.
#1529 by seniorblitz
2018-10-20 at 00:52
#1530 by seniorblitz
2018-10-27 at 23:08
Shouldn't Friendship Ending and Friendship Route also be under Friendship?
#1531 by seniorblitz
2018-11-02 at 15:46
Albino Heroine should also be under White Haired Heroine, since for a heroine to be an "Albino" they need to have white hair in the first place (same applies to the male counter part of White Haired Hero/Albino Hero).
#1532 by warfoki
2018-11-03 at 04:57
So, about Multiple Route Story: I get what the intention was with this, but I feel it's too late to make a separate tag for it. Multiple Route Mystery has been used for this purpose for so long, that all the regular taggers just use it instinctively and wading out the non-mystery VNs at this point would be a bloody nightmare. And there also the issue that Multiple Route Story has a bit ambiguous name: at first glance I thought someone wants to make a tag for VNs having multiple routes.

Also "understanding the full story of this game" is kinda vague. With Multiple Route Mystery, it's a lot more objective: you have a central mystery or multiple mysteries and to solve it / them, you need to play multiple routes, clear enough. But if there's no mystery, then what is there to "understand" through multiple routes? If we are talking about a story forcing you to play routes in a given order for the full story, we have Enforced Playing Order for that. Having to play multiple routes to unlock the route that gives you the most complete ending has Unlockable Routes and One True End respectively. So, where would you even use this tag that isn't already covered by other tags?Last modified on 2018-11-03 at 07:35
#1533 by rampaa
2018-11-03 at 06:29
Only Avoidable Heroine Having Sex with Others should be a child tag of Only Avoidable Sex with Others.

Netorare, Swinging and Heroine Raped by Others should be child tags of Heroine Having Sex with Others.

Side Character Raped by Others should be a child tag of Side Character Having Sex with Others.

Netorare Type C should be a child tag of Heroine Raped by Others.Last modified on 2018-11-03 at 07:27
#1534 by warfoki
2018-11-03 at 07:33
Done. Also put Netorare Type B under Heroine Raped by Others, since that by definition starts out as rape.
#1535 by rampaa
2018-11-03 at 07:39
Doesn't "... or otherwise tricked" imply it might be not rape?
#1536 by warfoki
2018-11-03 at 07:41
Hmm... well, technically the guy can impersonate the protagonist maybe... Can't think of much else. I guess that's a reason enough to revert it, even though 99% or more would start out as rape of some form.Last modified on 2018-11-03 at 07:43
#1537 by rampaa
2018-11-03 at 07:50
Well, if 99%+ of them start as rape maybe we can say practice over theory.

Also I forgot to add "If the protagonist is male, do not use this tag for lesbian sex or for group sex in which the protagonist is the only male." thingy for "Side Character Having Sex with Others".
#1538 by minah
2018-11-03 at 07:56
If sex with women doesn't count, the tags should be renamed "Sex with Other Men".
#1539 by warfoki
2018-11-03 at 07:59
Nah, I don't think we need that line. Like if two female side characters have sex while the protagonist is male, it should still be tagged. These tags are specific enough as is, no need to narrow them down further. Also, this tag should not apply to group sex scenes in which the protagonist is actively involved imho. But since there's no way to add this to the name of the tag as well, I don't want to make the description more specific.Last modified on 2018-11-03 at 07:59
#1540 by rampaa
2018-11-03 at 08:04
>"Also, this tag should not apply to group sex scenes in which the protagonist is actively involved imho."
If protag is the only male, I agree. Otherwise, I disagree.

Adding "Do not use this tag for group sex in which the protagonist is the only male." line would be good enough, I believe. Using "Other Men" instead of "Others" also sounds good.Last modified on 2018-11-03 at 08:14
#1541 by rampaa
2018-11-03 at 08:25
Defloration by Others should be a child tag of Heroine Having Sex with Others.

Impregnation by Others should be a child tag of Sex with Others.

(It's kinda weird that "Defloration by Others" is for heroines only but "Impregnation by Others" can be applied to all characters.)Last modified on 2018-11-03 at 08:46
#1542 by rampaa
2018-11-03 at 09:59
Not too sure but, I think Public Cum Dumpster can be a child tag of either Sex with Others or Rape by Others.

Also Rape by Others should be a child tag of Sex with Others too.Last modified on 2018-11-03 at 10:25
#1543 by seniorblitz
2018-11-03 at 14:08
Only One Bad Ending should also be under Multiple Endings.

Oyaji Protagonist should also be under Adult Protagonist and Male Protagonist.

About the Multiple Route Story, I think just adding the name as an aliase is enough, since by this point Multiple Route Mystery already fulfills this role, doesn't help that the VN example that the user that requested the tag used (Himawari) to exemplify to me why he requested it in the first place, isn't totally devoid of mystery like they implied (won't say the name of the user since privacy).Last modified on 2018-11-03 at 14:14
#1544 by bobjr2000
2018-11-03 at 22:41
I probably missed end of debate but are we just going to leave to cross dressing hero the same instead of trap tag.
#1545 by batoo
2018-11-10 at 11:32
For the trait (waiting for approval) Romantic Reconquest, I made a mistake: It's not related to "School Sports Club Member" but to "Netori".

And for Learning of a Foreign Language, I write bad an url tag and two links in fictitious languages ​​refer to the (good) wikipedia page but in French (for Khuzdul and Quenya I did not pay attention that it was in French when I copy the link). Very sorry... (>...<)Last modified on 2018-11-12 at 14:20
#1546 by seniorblitz
2018-11-13 at 19:54
Forgot to put Albino Protagonist under White Haired Protagonist.
#1547 by batoo
2018-11-15 at 23:46
I can't remember where but I read somewhere some stuff about goblins and Tolkien def. and all so I give here my opinion.

Goblins are Orcs for Tolkien, they're the same (in The Hobbit). Only P.Jackson has made the difference between the two species by saying that goblins are an orc adaptation/evolution that they can live more easily in the caves.

So my suggestion is this, do you agree to put the trait Goblin as a child tag of Orc?
#1548 by kominarachromer
2018-11-20 at 02:55
i could've sworn there was a general tag discussion, but i guess this'll work

Shooter Game's description is fucking weird. This part in particular:

type of game that challenges the player's speed and reaction time to succeed.

That's not specific to a shooter; that's just the definition of an action game. While the description does later clarify that a shooter needs to have shooting, I still feel like it isn't specific enough.

I bring this up because I've been playing a lot of Baldr recently, and I noticed that every entry has the Shooter Game tag. While it is true that the games do have projectile weapons so it does technically fall under the tag's umbrella, there's a roughly equal focus on melee combat, and there's certainly much more than you'd see in your traditional shooter. I'd compare it to something like Devil May Cry; while ranged combat certainly is an option, it isn't really the primary focus of the game in the way it is in a "true" shooter like Doom or Contra. Because of that, I don't think calling it a shooter is entirely accurate.
Unfortunately, I don't think any of of the existing Action Game tags properly cover this, and I doubt a "Character Action Game" tag would have a wide enough use, so I was wondering if there was anyone else who had a proper solution to the problem.
#1549 by barfboy
2018-11-26 at 18:15
Basic zooms, moving static sprites and shaking the screen are not considered animations for the animation format so what are they? They can be really cute and it's better to have them then nothing at all. If you don't want to include them under releases can we make a tag about it?
#1550 by batoo
2018-11-26 at 20:03
"Subject of" Avoidable Netorare? That wouldn't be approuved in that form: "Engages in" would fit better by reading the def.Last modified on 2018-11-26 at 20:04


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