Tone Work's 4th project: Tsukikana

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#1 by d2o
2018-12-05 at 12:08
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Looks like this one will be more plot-focused than their other works.
Feeling nostalgic, adult MC fires up the phone he used in his high school days and sends himself a message: "You'll regret it".
He gets a reply: "What's this all of a sudden?"
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#2 by kiru
2018-12-05 at 12:45
6 writers. Hype indeed.
#3 by fuukanou
2018-12-05 at 13:10
Ehh having read the heroine descriptions I dunno if I really want to play all of their routes.
Concept seems nice tho
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#5 by styr
2018-12-05 at 22:08
Right now I'm only interested in Rein and the adult heroines, but there's plenty of time for things to change. Touka and the Uguu heroine look pretty mediocre to me..
#6 by d2o
2018-12-06 at 18:16
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Character bios. translated by Triplicate.
#7 by readher
2018-12-06 at 18:40
Selfish and uninhibited. She has a carefree, does-whatever-she-pleases
personality. She makes a point to never sleep with the same man twice.

The only non-virgin heroine is also a total slut, why am I not surprised. It's as if there's no middle-ground when it comes to this in JP VNs.
#8 by bobjr2000
2018-12-06 at 19:49
Not sure that means she is a slut. All those bad traits could simply be a spoil brat that almost never has sex but when does gets bored of guy fast. If she is actively seeking out guys and doing this would make slut.

You are probably right they are making her slut but weird description that doesn't say more about sex life other than she wont sleep with a guy more than once. I do agree wish Japan would get over that most people are not virgins are also not whores or bad people.

Honestly shouldn't be much tagging until actual VN comes out. I don't think it even has a date yet.Last modified on 2018-12-06 at 19:58
#9 by d2o
2018-12-06 at 19:49
Just don't tag her as "Not a Virgin" yet.
I have the slight suspicion that she's one of these heroines that claims not to be one, but actually is.
#10 by readher
2018-12-06 at 19:58
I have the slight suspicion that she's one of these heroines that claims not to be one, but actually is.

Well, this site has some info at the end of article that I assume was given out by developers (it's in Chinese and I use MTL, so I'm not sure) and it says she's not a virgin.

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#11 by kiru
2018-12-06 at 20:03
You can tag a character as "not a virgin" if that's their setting. Everything else would actually be a spoiler.
#12 by readher
2018-12-06 at 20:24
Apparently she was confirmed to be non-virgin on livestream here:

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But some JP speaker would have to confirm.
#13 by batoo
2018-12-07 at 15:34
I think what it says in #9 is a good suggestion, because maybe the "slut" is just pretending just like Nanase in another VN (don't click on the link if you want to avoid spoilers).Last modified on 2018-12-07 at 15:42
#14 by namiultedjapan
2018-12-07 at 17:57
#13 I will hope for that but if not i don't really care. It could still be a good route.
#15 by bobjr2000
2018-12-07 at 20:06
personal doesn't matter if she is a not virgin but slut thing is a bit of a turn off. I only played one of games but it doesn't seem like the norm to have slut heroines. Maybe they are mixing it up as stated above making more plot focused.
#16 by readher
2018-12-07 at 20:58
Yeah, I don't particularly care whether a heroine is a virgin or not, but dating habits are important to me. Having long-term relationships in the past is fine, but sleeping around or switching boyfriends like gloves is a big nope for me (same goes for MCs, I don't play VNs where MC is a stud/playboy). Her attitude definitely points at it being the latter case.Last modified on 2018-12-07 at 20:59
#17 by kadp
2018-12-08 at 06:10
not a fan of manipulating the passage of time as a way to move the plot
#18 by kiru
2018-12-08 at 08:58
@13: You do realize that "pretending" implies it's the initial setting, which means the "not a virgin" tag is still correct? Everything that is a twist or has to be revealed or whatever is a spoiler. Everything that's there from the beginning is not. It's a tricky situation, but if the "truth" is a spoiler, you need the "not a virgin" tag, or else you spoil no matter what spoiler setting is chosen. Vndb doesn't have very good support for this, unfortunately. Normally "not a virgin" should disappear once an appropriate spoiler setting is chosen, if it turns out she actually is a virgin later on, but that's not supported.

That said, I do believe that it's better to wait tagging until the game is out anyway, but just in case she isn't just "not a virgin" for 5 minutes and immediately refutes it: The "not a virgin" tag should be correct, no matter what happens late in the game. Just not using it and putting "virgin" with a spoiler setting would still be rather suspicious. Especially if all other characters have the respective virgin trait without spoiler settings, just one doesn't. But yeah, it's a tricky situation. You can only hope, that the feature to tag things for specific spoiler settings is coming it some point. Sometimes certain tags or traits just get refuted as the game goes on. A human turns out to be not quite human after all. Surprise surprise, it's a (reverse) trap. Oh you thought she is actually straight? Nah. Wait, those melons are just pads, and she is an A cup! Many possibilities.Last modified on 2018-12-08 at 08:59
#19 by kratoscar2008
2018-12-08 at 14:03
Huh? I thought japanese absolutely HATES non virgin heroines? Why isnt TW on panic mode and releasing countless statements of the heroine being a virgin or that she is just a side heroine? They have balls.
Anyways i usually dont mind nonvirgins but here its a shame that the most attractive girl is one. Would had preferred one of the youngest ones but i guess THAT wouldnt fly (Since they couldnt use "she is an old hag" as an excuse).

Maybe since its all about regrets of the past maybe the MC gets to change her personality and a timeline with a virgin version can be created.
#20 by batoo
2018-12-10 at 22:26
#18 In truth there are many possibilities, maybe she makes believe that she is no longer a virgin and that she sleeps with a different man every night because of her notoriety (apparently she is a great writer) or maybe she has had boyfriends before but, disappointed by love, she tries to make men run away by claiming to be a "devourer of men" or else she tells the truth. Just waiting for the release of the game to put the traits related to all that is related to sex like that we avoid the stupidities ^^

#16 I think the same as you on this point, to choose between the two, I grealtly prefer to find a girl who had sexual experiences with boys she really liked than a girl who sleeps with everything that moves (and I think the same for boys, womanizer and sluts: they are the same for me, to the bin).
#21 by stormwolf
2018-12-14 at 13:19
Cant find a fault in a 29 year old woman not being a virgin. The problem is the "never to sleep with the same man twice" holy shit that makes for a nasty heroine if thats true. She'll fuck and dump the mc, with the mc being pathetic and route locked will be begging and pleading to get into that sluts pants again, im betting on it.
#22 by styr
2018-12-15 at 21:48
I've loved all of tone work's titles thus far, but for some reason I'm just not really feeling these characters. Especially the main two, Touka and Uguisu. I am somewhat thankful they didn't shoehorn in another imouto character like what we got with Yuzuki as I found her to be utterly insufferable. Although it looks like Seira will fulfill that role to some extent in the 25yr old segment.

As for breast sizes, I'm not really surprised by all the cowtits. At least we'll have two petite heroines this time, one in the 'present' and one in the 'future'. Also, I had a chuckle at the hafu heroine having the smallest bust size that we know of. I just hope Rein doesn't grow a pair of melons between her high school days and the after story, like what happened to Bethly between middle and high.

I'm also a bit worried about the large gap between the 2nd grade segment and 25yr old segment, assuming that it is presented the same way as Ginharu (chronological order). That's a much, much larger age gap than what we got in Ginharu with its middle + high school segments. Although perhaps we'll only see the 2nd grade segment in a flashback?

As for that bit about Kirari "never to sleep with the same man twice" just sounds like something dramatic they came up with so that when she settles down with the MC it will be some character development. Like someone else here already wrote, it is likely she's still a virgin but puts up a front due to being a cake. I don't think tone work's is stupid enough to pull an Elf.
#23 by stormwolf
2018-12-16 at 11:22
#22 I find that hard to believe too. It's just weird the developers seems to have confirmed that she isn't a virgin though, unless they're deceiving people, which could in theory hurt initial sales.
#24 by kiru
2018-12-16 at 11:30
Let's just say that non virgin heroines with main routes are about as rare as a heroine actually dying in moege. It sure exists. But you have to SEARCH.
As such, they can say what they want, people don't believe it anyway. Look at yourselves, best example. (not like I believe it either)

Kind of sad times.

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